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Lost Star Wars Scene In the Wild

CmdrTaco posted more than 4 years ago | from the i-made-this dept.

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Someone managed to get a clip on-line of the lost Star Wars scene from Jedi where Luke is shown crafting his Lightsaber. The full clip will apparently be included on the Blu-ray box set expected to come out in 2011. Hit the link below to see what is circulating. It's not much, but it looks real. Can't wait to see what they include in the 2015 version.
Update: 08/16 22:44 GMT by S : Lucasfilm complained, and YouTube took the video down.

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nerds (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33264824)

NERDS!!!

Re:nerds (4, Interesting)

TrisexualPuppy (976893) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265492)

NERDS!!!

Kind of true here. They're running a little thin on marketable materials if the scene addition is a short little 15-30 second clip that adds nothing to the plot. There are probably a few more deleted scenes that will be released in the next ten years.

For me, it's a complete turnoff. I went to see the digitized releases of IV, V, and V in the theaters in the late '90s. It took away from the movies. Then they keep changing things within the scenes. Han shot first. Live with it. After I, II, and III came out, they removed the original ghost of Vader at the end of Return of the Jedi and replaced him with the Canadian actor that played Anakin Skywalker in II and III. WHY?

As Mel Brooks pointed out 23 years ago, it's all along the lines of "Moichandizing! Moichandizing!". They know that they have a franchise that they can milk for years to come. Some sci-fi geeks [slashdot.org] take things a little too far, and where there is this amount of submission, you can bet that the pocket books are open. Don't get me started about my small collection of pewter TNG starships. :)

Re:nerds (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33265534)

Hmmmm... what website are you on?

Snooze. (5, Insightful)

demonlapin (527802) | more than 4 years ago | (#33264896)

Wake me up when he puts out the one where Han shoots first.

I was hoping for a rickroll (4, Insightful)

Wrexs0ul (515885) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265086)

Really, a whole 15 seconds (and about as many words) for the $75 collector's edition?

I know we grew-up with it, but there's never going to be anything new until we STOP paying for the same old stuff.

-Matt

Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (4, Interesting)

TheJokeExplainer (1760894) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265208)

while on the subject of rare Star Wars footage, check out Return of the Ewok [youtube.com] , a mockumentary shot by the original cast and crew during the filming of Return of the Jedi.

It's got a lot of funny interesting tidbits pretty rare to find, even on the net (and much much harder to find than the Star Wars Christmas special), so check it out.

Warwick Davis as Wicket is the protagonist and it's pretty interesting how he was just a kid when they shot ROTJ. The name of the film was actually even Revenge of the Jedi during filming of Return of the Ewok.

Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (3, Insightful)

Moridineas (213502) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265240)

I know we grew-up with it, but there's never going to be anything new until we STOP paying for the same old stuff.

There IS new stuff. It's called The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, and Revenge of the Sith.

Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (3, Funny)

Ironhandx (1762146) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265326)

What are those? I only recall A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi... as far as I was aware those were the only three that were made.

It really is about time they made some new star wars movies though, I mean, 30 years is a bit of a wait, don't you think? Then again maybe they'd just screw it up...

Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33265412)

I only recall Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi. What is this "A New Hope" thing that all you noobs are always talking about?

Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (4, Funny)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265354)

There IS new stuff. It's called The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, and Revenge of the Sith.

That's a dirty lie!

LALALALALALA I'm not listening!

Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (3, Insightful)

Moridineas (213502) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265482)

The moral of the story (for the GP) is: be careful what you wish for! ;-)

Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (4, Funny)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265808)

I dont get it, they have not even introduced Spock yet. Plus why all this focus on the fringe alien races? No ferengi, or Vulcans anywhere in those movies.

I actually did that at a comic con during a heated discussion between 2 uber-nerds dressed as starwars characters... they came completely unglued on me. "THAT IS STAR TREK YOU IDIOT!" And started frothing at the mouth...

I then asked cince they know so much, when did buck rogers make his debut in Pantom Menace.... They almost started convulsing...

Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (1)

AnonymousClown (1788472) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265262)

Really, a whole 15 seconds (and about as many words) for the $75 collector's edition?

I know we grew-up with it, but there's never going to be anything new until we STOP paying for the same old stuff.

-Matt

There's a reason why George Lucas is a billionaire. [forbes.com]

He's very strong with the Schwartz!

Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33265324)

Really, a whole 15 seconds (and about as many words) for the $75 collector's edition?

I know we grew-up with it, but there's never going to be anything new until we STOP paying for the same old stuff.

-Matt

Here's a thought, don't buy it! Why this obsession on Slashdot with not paying for things? Would it suddenly be okay if he released them free? I'm sure he's spending a bundle remastering them and adding content so it's reasonable to charge. The viewing public isn't a charity. I have far less trouble with this than I did with the original Star Wars laserdisk licensing mess. I believe there were five versions. Some were wide screen others had Dolby. The problem was since they licensed each version to a different company no one copy had everything you wanted. I didn't bother buying one until the box set came out. If you don't want to waste your money then don't but some people will want them so why stop the release just to avoid annoying you personally? And no I don't have any plans to buy them. Release the original first film in blu-ray and I'll buy it in a heartbeat. It was still the best of the lot and I'm not a fan of the last three. The new scenes stick out like a sore thumb. Cleaning up the old garbage mattes is fine just don't add CG shots. The reason the old VHS and Laserdisk version had visible garbage mattes is they did a one light on the gama. The blacks were too light so it showed every garbage matter around the ships. It was the studio going cheap. Things like that should be cleaned up but the rest should be released intact. Too bad he won't release it since fans would pay a lot for an original theatrical version on blu-ray. I doubt it'll happen while he's alive.

Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (1)

maestroX (1061960) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265532)

I know we grew-up with it, but there's never going to be anything new until we STOP paying for the same old stuff.

I grew up with it, never understood the fuss about Star Wars, the Disney of sci-fi.
try BSG reimagined: excellent; impressive acting, no Harrison-needs-a-diaper-change Ford.
(better babes too).

Duplicate Story - was: I was hoping for a rickroll (0, Troll)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265646)

This clip was in yesterday's Slashdot story about Star Wars Bluray.
Been there. Done that.
Seen the clip and saved it to dh0:

Oh and here's your rickroll - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHCCU8kl864 [youtube.com]

Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33265692)

Really, a whole 15 seconds (and about as many words) for the $75 collector's edition?

I know we grew-up with it, but there's never going to be anything new until we STOP paying for the same old stuff.

-Matt

Hi Matt! Check this out: http://www.forbes.com/lists/2010/10/billionaires-2010_George-Lucas_PNOV.html

Lucas is one of the wealthiest people in the world and 65 years old. He's selling this stuff because people do want it. Everybody that knows bittorrent knows that you can download a HD version of the movies from a TV rip (they play all of the movies like 3-4 times a year). Also, the TV version will be 16x9 and not that stupid 2.35:1 or whatever the DVD's aspect ratio is and what the BluRay will probably be as well.

Oh, and ask Google about where to find a picture of Lucas wearing a "Han shot first" t-shirt. He definitely has a sense of humor about these things.

Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (2, Insightful)

Weaselmancer (533834) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265876)

Oh, and ask Google about where to find a picture of Lucas wearing a "Han shot first" t-shirt. He definitely has a sense of humor about these things.

It's his sense of humor that bothers me. Like adding 52 seconds of cutting room floor footage and billing $75 for it.

Hell if people made me into a billionaire like that I'd probably have a good sense of humor too. I'd spend my days rolling around on the floor in piles of hundred dollar bills giggling like a maniac.

Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (2, Insightful)

ThinkWeak (958195) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265724)

What I want IS the old stuff. I want the ORIGINAL series on DVD. I don't want it re-touched, re-mastered, THX'd, shockwave'd in space, nothing else. Just the originals.

Which you can't find unless they're on VHS or badly bootlegged. Why can't we just buy the original cut?

Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (1)

schnell (163007) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265878)

What I want IS the old stuff. I want the ORIGINAL series on DVD ... Why can't we just buy the original cut?

You can [amazon.com] . Sure, you have to get the special edition versionsas well, but this DVD set includes all the originals on "bonus discs." You can also find the orignal-only DVD single discs used as well.

Re:I was hoping for a rickroll (2, Insightful)

Albert Sandberg (315235) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265786)

Yeah, and those 15 seconds include more emotion and acting than the whole prequel series do together.. and Hamill aren't a good actor.

Re:Snooze. (5, Insightful)

segedunum (883035) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265174)

Yer. I got tired of Lucas tinkering with things that didn't need tinkering with (just leave Boba Fett's damn voice alone) and we've got more of these 'new' scenes just to squeeze out the last trinket of change. He even managed to get Steven Speilberg totally embarrassed of the recent Indiana Jones film.

Just stop George. We know you'd probably like to remake Empire Strikes Back because you didn't direct it, and it's, you know, good, but don't. It's beyond sad and embarrassing now. The world will simply end up thinking that you contributed nothing good to the successes you've had.

Re:Snooze. (1)

macbeth66 (204889) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265192)

Can't happen, as I shot myself first.

I can't take any more of these silly releases of the same old movie.

Re:Snooze. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33265520)

He did. You can get a DVD pack that has both the theatrical releases and the remade ones.

Re:Snooze. (1)

curecollector (957211) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265550)

...and yanks the Jabba scene that follows. Not only does Jabba look terrible, the dialogue is pretty much the Greedo scene all over again.

What they include (5, Funny)

kvezach (1199717) | more than 4 years ago | (#33264902)

In the 2015 version, the bartender shoots first.

Re:What they include (4, Funny)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265372)

In the 2015 version, the bartender shoots first.

I want R2D2 to shoot first, right after the bartender says he doesn't serve their kind in there.

Re:What they include (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265650)

I want Obiwan to shoot Luke first "Aw, fuck it. The Skywalkers were a bunch of prancing primadona's anyways. Now where's Palpatine's number. I'd sooner wash the radioactive crap from his toilet that sit out in the desert boinking the odd Sandperson."

Re:What they include (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33265844)

Are you kidding? By 2015, Lucas' face will have replaced Luke's (Luke-as), Steve Jobs will play Vader (Luke, use OS-X), and Balmer will be a chair-tossing Sith (taught by Gates). Plus, by then, hard-core porn will be commonplace and acceptable, so you can expect a few extended excerpts of "Logjammin" to be inserted gratuitously throughout, as well.

I wonder what happened to 3D Star Wars? (1)

peter303 (12292) | more than 4 years ago | (#33264918)

I saw clips from the 3D Star Wars IV at the 2008 SIGGRAPH in Los Angeles. They looked pretty good. They were being "dimensionalized" from the original 1977 by some contractor. All I heard was that George is perfectionist and the state of dimensionalization had not yet met his standards.

Let me guess (1, Funny)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265018)

He won't be satisfied until 3D distance perception turns Chewbacca into the Ewok he always intended?

Re:I wonder what happened to 3D Star Wars? (4, Insightful)

alen (225700) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265182)

if the last 15 years is any guide expect a new version of the saga every 2-3 years

late 1990's we had the cleaned up version of the OT followed up by the special edition versions
2000 we had The Phantom Menace
then we had the Phantom Menace DVD scandal where it was released on VHS in 2001 because GL had some grand plan to release all 6 movies on DVD middle of last decade
2002 TPM magially comes to DVD as a special release because of the demand
around this time we had the OT DVD release
then the next to NT movies came out on DVD shortly after the theater releases
i stopped buying after TPM DVD but i'm pretty sure there were a few grand releases later in the decade

after this blu ray release expect the OT movies to come out with no special edition versions
then 3D releases
then a few more releases including an upcoming complete reshoot of all the movies with new modern special effects but the original character's faces and voices to preserve the history of the series

the isuckers/star wars suckers will buy anything their cult leaders tell them to buy, in the case of the SW nerds they probably have 20 versions of each movie already and can't wait to buy more due to the continuous finds of new scenes

Re:I wonder what happened to 3D Star Wars? (1)

IndustrialComplex (975015) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265382)

the isuckers/star wars suckers will buy anything their cult leaders tell them to buy, in the case of the SW nerds they probably have 20 versions of each movie already and can't wait to buy more due to the continuous finds of new scenes

You said you stopped buying AFTER you already bought the TPM dvd. Are you really in a good position to call other people suckers?

Re:I wonder what happened to 3D Star Wars? (1)

alen (225700) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265438)

i had the Special Edition pack DVD's and the PTM DVD and on VHS. it was after Lucas released PTM on DVD and the last 2 movies sucking pretty bad that i stopped caring. can't remember the last time i saw any of the movies.

but it was funny to read the suckers complain after every new release how they had to buy it again and it was the same movies

Shared Experience. (1)

prakslash (681585) | more than 4 years ago | (#33264934)

Before you pooh-pooh these geeks/nerds for having orgasms about something so trivial, remember they were in an auditorium full of people.
When people are in a crowd situation trying to have fun, they will cheer or boo the most inane things to get the energy going and enhance their shared experience.

Re:Shared Experience. (1)

6031769 (829845) | more than 4 years ago | (#33264976)

So, you've been to a recording of Jeremy Kyle, then? How was it?

Re:Shared Experience. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33265056)

It was pretty much the same as when I went to a recording of the original American version - The Jerry Springer Show.

Re:Shared Experience. (2, Funny)

Kepesk (1093871) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265270)

Yes, but still, I can't help but to be amused when a hundred people go ballistic when they see someone tinkering with a gizmo using a screwdriver.

"Luke!" (5, Funny)

jbeaupre (752124) | more than 4 years ago | (#33264936)

"Get out of that cave! Are you polishing your Lightsaber again? You know she's your sister, right?"

Re:"Luke!" (4, Insightful)

jgagnon (1663075) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265150)

Incest is the dark side of the force...

Re:"Luke!" (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33265390)

Is that what the kids call it these day? I know I began "crafting a light saber" when I found this [buzzfeed.com] .

Comic Con 2009 Interview Mark Hamill - Not me (5, Interesting)

Knightlymuse (626563) | more than 4 years ago | (#33264950)

Re: Comic Con 2009 Interview Mark Hamill - Not me (1)

v1 (525388) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265028)

I wonder if he was asked to deny the rumor to keep the scene secret for the next re-release that we're seeing now?

Or if dimensia is setting in?

Re: Comic Con 2009 Interview Mark Hamill - Not me (3, Informative)

Tebriel (192168) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265200)

Or it could in fact actually not be him. Stand-ins for scenes like that aren't uncommon in the industry, or even in the Star Wars movies themselves....ask David Prowse.

Re: Comic Con 2009 Interview Mark Hamill - Not me (4, Funny)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265440)

Or it could in fact actually not be him. Stand-ins for scenes like that aren't uncommon in the industry, or even in the Star Wars movies themselves....ask David Prowse.

And James Earl Jones, who should've been behind that mask at the end of ROTJ. That would certainly have been a surprise.

Re: Comic Con 2009 Interview Mark Hamill - Not me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33265780)

"Luke's" face IS totally covered in shadow... I hesitate to say that this "recovered" scene is authentically from the original filming.

"Looks real"? Yeah. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33264964)

Given it was introduced by Mark Hamilll and George Lucas, I'm thinking so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTt-R0BxJn0

Nerds.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33264966)

Luuuke!!! Yeeeahhhhhh! Bloody children.

Endless hype. (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33264968)

This "leak" aught to fan the flames of hype for yet another re-issuing of the SAME movies you all already have. So hurray! Let's all celebrate another billion dollars for George Lucas! And watch, as an entire generation of nerds continues to allow itself to be defined by the endless marketing and hype over some mediocre movies that aren't even really science fiction (Star Wars has far more in common with fantasy movies like the lord of the rings than it does actual science fiction like 2001). Pathetic.

Re:Endless hype. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33265000)

"aught"

WTF

Re:Endless hype. (2, Insightful)

Anita Coney (648748) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265016)

A Geek and his money are soon parted.

My last set was the last for me... (1)

binary paladin (684759) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265096)

When the theatrical releases were made available on DVD (basically nothing but a rip of the laser discs) I picked them up since my VHS tapes were on death's door. I expect that's the best Han shot first release we'll ever get and as such that's the end of the road for me.

Pasting Hayden Christensen into the end of Return of the Jedi was the last piece of George Lucas scat I could handle. I didn't even see those. I saw a YouTube video of it before it was released and was just like, "Okay, I'm done." (Although, I was basically done at the point I heard Darth Fucking Vader say, "Is Padme all right?" Then the infamous, "NOOOOOOOOOO!" Even thinking about the journey from Anakin to Vader makes my skin crawl now.

Re:My last set was the last for me... (1)

ArcherB (796902) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265376)

(Although, I was basically done at the point I heard Darth Fucking Vader say, "Is Padme all right?" Then the infamous, "NOOOOOOOOOO!" Even thinking about the journey from Anakin to Vader makes my skin crawl now.

I realized after watching Empire during the Star Wars Marathon all weekend that the NOOOOOOOOOOO scene was a take-off/homage to Luke's scream when he found out Vader was his father (Oh, spoiler alert). You know, like father, like son kinda thing.

At least, that is what I'm going to tell myself as it makes the whole "Vader NOOOOO" scene much more palatable.

A video describing Lucas' business model. (1)

AnonymousClown (1788472) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265312)

This video here [youtube.com] explains George Lucas' business model for getting ultra rich in Hollywood.

Re:Endless hype. (1)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265436)

it's a price worth paying as long as it keeps Lucas from making any new drek

The 2015 Extra's Include! (4, Funny)

seppy (2431) | more than 4 years ago | (#33264980)

Luke Skywalker playing with his light saber on Chat Roulette!

If I were a Star Wars completist, I think I would have George Lucas on a list by now.

Underwhelmed. (1)

MaWeiTao (908546) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265040)

I have to admit, it's quite embarrassing to see people in that theater get so excited about this. It's neat, but it's far from being something so profound to Star Wars canon that it make sense for people to go nuts about it. It isn't even actual assembly, it's Luke poking at the hilt with exaggerated sound effects added.

I'd argue that it's as ridiculous as people getting worked up over the winner of American Idol. But then, that's just me.

Re:Underwhelmed. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33265170)

You know that cringe-like ominous feeling you get in the stomach when you see something embarrassing? Like when someone else does something really stupid up on a stage? What's that feeling called? Anyway, I felt the same way listening to those people cheer.

Re:Underwhelmed. (1)

memnock (466995) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265212)

not only that. the "rocks" behind him looked like some kind of crinkled up fabric. i thought it looked kind of lousy.

Re:Underwhelmed. (1)

BradleyUffner (103496) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265406)

not only that. the "rocks" behind him looked like some kind of crinkled up fabric. i thought it looked kind of lousy.

don't worry, those will be fixed up with CGI in the 2nd next release. to you know, show them they way they should have been from the start.

Re:Underwhelmed. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33265216)

It isn't even actual assembly

Yeah, I know, if it HAD been actual assembly, I would have been all over that shit. YEAAAAAAH.

Shop Class (1, Insightful)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265072)

It looked a little like he was fabricating a self igniting bong.

In a far far away galaxy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33265132)

  There were instructables and makezine and hackaday.

Just as long... (1)

Drakkenmensch (1255800) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265152)

... as it's not the missing Santa Droid scene from the Star Wars Holiday Special!

Did 'Star Wars' become a toy story? (1)

schwit1 (797399) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265154)

Did 'Star Wars' become a toy story? Producer Gary Kurtz looks back.

http://tinyurl.com/35ltv3u [tinyurl.com]

Looks cool ... (4, Insightful)

WankersRevenge (452399) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265186)

... but there was a reason it was left on the cutting room floor. Maybe it added too much of a somber tone, or maybe it was deemed redundant when vader later notes that skywalker had created a lightsaber. The real question ... how long can this franchise hold out when the last episode of any quality was made twenty years ago? Is anyone else bored by this franchise now? And when will it finally, mercifully, be put down?

Re:Looks cool ... (0, Troll)

neo-mkrey (948389) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265278)

... but there was a reason it was left on the cutting room floor. Maybe it added too much of a somber tone, or maybe it was deemed redundant when vader later notes that skywalker had created a lightsaber. The real question ... how long can this franchise hold out when the last episode of any quality was made thirty years ago? Is anyone else bored by this franchise now? And when will it finally, mercifully, be put down? Fixed that for you.

Re:Looks cool ... (1)

tycoex (1832784) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265434)

While I agree the movies need to stop forever some of the games and even the books are pretty good. Kotor is an excellent game and had a far better storyline as well as better lore than the actual movies. The force unleashed seems like it's a pretty good game, and the new star wars mmorpg might be a nice one as well.

Re:Looks cool ... (1)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265470)

I don't recall Vader's "pod" existing in the first movie.

and after viewing the Youtube interview listed elsewhere in comments here it comes across as something added when he changed the special effects out for whatever edition that was.

Re:Looks cool ... (1)

alen (225700) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265690)

not long

my son is almost 3 and i first saw A New Hope when i was around 8 in 1982 on a theater rerelease. back then it was cool tech especially the 3D death star map. i just bought my wife an iPhone 4 and gave her 3G to our son loaded with all kinds of kids apps. Kids growing up with today's technology will yawn when they see star wars.

George Lucas better hire some CGI artists and redo it from the used universe to where it looks futuristic by today's standards

Not Mark Hamill (2, Insightful)

WarpedCore (1255156) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265188)

It looks like they used a puppet for the close up. You see his nose and his chin... looks different from what Hamill looked like (Seriously, just Google RotJ Mark Hamill.. even factoring in the shadows.. doesn't look like his chin, upper lip, and nose). The movement looks stiff... like they tilted the head of damned puppet. They did the ol' Swedish Chef... puppet body, real hands.

Re:Not Mark Hamill (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33265420)

It looks like they used a puppet for the close up. You see his nose and his chin... looks different from what Hamill looked like (Seriously, just Google RotJ Mark Hamill.. even factoring in the shadows.. doesn't look like his chin, upper lip, and nose). The movement looks stiff... like they tilted the head of damned puppet. They did the ol' Swedish Chef... puppet body, real hands.

If you're right and it's not Mark Hamil, it's more likely they took a shot of Mark's face and digitally plastered it onto the real actor. That would explain much of what you noticed and it's more likely imho. But I tend to agree in general. I do NOT think those are Mark Hamill's hands.

Re:Not Mark Hamill (1)

WarpedCore (1255156) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265618)

The very last seen showing Luke inspecting (and retracting) his saber with R2-D2 w/ C3P0 in the far background... it looks like Hamill from the side. It more resembles his facial features. It's not beyond Lucas to patch, restore, or refilm... it looks like a physical puppet. Probably they couldn't actually get Hamill for the shot and they constructed an actual puppet or had existing materials or another actor to fill in. It probably wasn't a shot worth spending a lot of money on unless they really believed it was going to be part of the introduction at the time. It's not beyond what it looks like they could of done in 1982-1983. It's also something that Lucas could of redone, patched, or refilmed. He's done a combination of any of those for rereleases. I think it's 80s footage... the motion of his head when he looks down at the lightsaber has the mannerisms of a puppet... the placement of the human hands with a black cloak helps with the illusion.

Re:Not Mark Hamill (1)

ebinrock (1877258) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265668)

The question is, for a shot like this, why WOULDN'T they have just shot it with the real actor, Mark Hamill? It's not like the scene calls for anything dangerous or difficult, just have him tinker with a metal cylinder and that's it. Certainly they could have shot Mark Hamill for a scene like that, instead of going through all kinds of gyrations with puppets and special effects, etc.

Jeez... (4, Funny)

Abstrackt (609015) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265190)

"The never-before-seen 56-second clip..."

This sounds like the DLC of movies.

Re:Jeez... (1)

nschubach (922175) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265418)

Except with DLC they tell you it was made... in movies these things apparently get lost. (How do you "lose" film that you still have?)

Re:Jeez... (1)

ihatejobs (1765190) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265526)

You don't lose the film, you claim it was lost which makes all the fanboys foam at the mouth at the mere thought of "new" star wars content they haven't seen.

Re:Jeez... (1)

catmistake (814204) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265454)

"The never-before-seen 56-second clip..."

um... this is BS... the version I saw included that scene, I swear it was in the theatrical release... except that it was shorter, started with a closeup of Luke's hands crafting the saber, and ends before the shot of C3P0

Re:Jeez... (1)

Stele (9443) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265544)

Yes, I remember seeing this too, but I'm not sure if it was in the theater.

George Lucas (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33265238)

All of you are being sued for copyright infringement.

Sincerely,
LucasG

Other News... (3, Funny)

rabidjoe (1854904) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265258)

George Lucas is re-releasing THX 1138 with a different title exclusively for Blu-Ray - "THX 500K4R5"

Re:Other News... (3, Informative)

Whalou (721698) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265428)

THX 500K4R5

I'm not fluent in leet speak, but I'm assuming this spells "Thanks suckers".

Re:Other News... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33265606)

Why, thank you, CPT 0BV10U5!

Adventures of a Stilton Wanker (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33265268)

This clip looks like something from the prequels. Didn't Lucas already ruin the original trilogy enough with the special editions that he feels he ought to add every piece of celluloid collected off of the cutting room floor?

Will whomever repairs the garbage compactor at Lucas's ranch, please be kind enough to put the hack of a film maker and his star wars franchise in it?

Doesn't look like a "lost" scene (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33265272)

Looks like they reused footage already filmed, got a new voice over from James Earl Jones, and filmed a double for Hamill with his face obscured.

Re:Doesn't look like a "lost" scene (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265714)

That's what it looks like to me. At the end of the scene, they've got C3PO standing out in the desert, but come on, they must have hours of footage of that from Episodes IV and VI. I don't believe for a second that this dates back to the filming of Episode VI.

Much better idea.... (1)

BulletMagnet (600525) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265308)

How about in 2017 for the 40 year release, they re-release 1-3 and scrap with content that doesn't suck....maybe some miniatures and furry costumes and ditch all that nonsense CGI ...and can somene shoot Jar-Jar first?

Re:Much better idea.... Star Wars - uncut (2, Interesting)

RichMan (8097) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265448)

http://www.starwarsuncut.com/ - fan remake of episode IV, shot by shot.

amusing, awesome and scary all at once, well 15 seconds at a time.

Old or new??? (2, Insightful)

shadowman99 (598429) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265400)

I remember seeing the saber construction in the ROTJ novelization as a kid thinking it was a cool bit, but in the flow of the film it makes no sense. I can see why it was cut, or more likely why it was newly created. If this had been in the film you would have the "big moment" of Vader informing his welcoming party the Emperor is coming to check on the Death Star 2 construction. Big fanfare music. Then Vader goes downstairs "Luke... Luke... Join the Dark Side...." ending the scene on a much weaker note. After all, Vader says almost nothing but "Join the dark side" during the final act, so this is redundant. Then we see Luke setting a plan in motion that undermines the tension when hologram Luke offers the droids as a gift, now that we have foreknowledge that he built a saber (as presumably gave it to the droids). I wonder if this is an actual deleted scene or something new to build hype and sell Blu-Rays. After all, Vader in a hallway that could have been built on a shoestring. I've seen bigger shots done for SW fan films. A possible outtake of him on an elevator, followed by an alternate take of him in his meditation chamber. Wipe to a very cloaked Luke, where we only see a hint of his face. Since we barely see his face and he never changes expression it could be Hamill's face digitally painted over a stand-in. The cave is nothing but shadow. The entrance, exterior, and C3PO could all be a digital composite. My gut tells me this is more 2010 than 1982.

Re:Old or new??? (1)

ebinrock (1877258) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265850)

It could be, but then again, since we know there were scenes filmed back then that didn't make the final cut (and there always are in films), this could indeed be a genuine original scene that was filmed back in the early 80's during principal photography. We could go on and on with paranoia that everything we see now in movies is a modern digital mockup. It's getting to that point now, unfortunately, where you never know where things stand. And George Lucas is all over it. He'll keep reworking and reworking these movies until his dying day. Let them go, George, and direct a whole other movie project already!

Let me know when Han shoots first again... (1)

Fallen Kell (165468) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265432)

As I won't be purchasing this until that happens.

Re:Let me know when Han shoots first again... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33265540)

Go get the dual version from 06.

Re:Let me know when Han shoots first again... (1)

Fallen Kell (165468) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265742)

I would, but I stopped buying DVD's a long time ago and am exclusively Blu-Ray now.

Still another missing scene out there. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33265528)

This is a continuation of the light saber construction scene. It shows where Luke just can't get his scratch built version to work, says "fuck it!" and orders one off the shelf from Dell.

Cash-in (3, Insightful)

Robotron23 (832528) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265556)

You'd think by ROTJ Lucas would have thought with all the impending fandom to keep a good ten or more short clips like this to keep the money rolling in with each successive edition of Star Wars.

Anyone reminded of that Simpsons episode where company making the dolls Lisa likes introduce a tiny hat alongside a 'new' doll, and people in their droves rush to buy the same old thing with just a trivial scrap added in?

It's pretty sad that after the prequels people can still get so excited over 15 or so seconds of Luke handling his lightsabre. It's baffling and kind of sad that there's all this cheering and enthusiatic shouting over a mundane snippet like this.

Doesn't really advance the plot (1)

thepacketmaster (574632) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265600)

I think it's safe to say we all got the gist of the plot from the original scenes in the movie. This really doesn't do anything for the overall plot. While it's a nice thought to have a scene about building a lightsaber, having Luke put a screwdriver inside his lightsaber and then turning it on doesn't really seem to count as building a lightsaber...more like beta testing it. Now a montage with him gathering bits and pieces for the lightsaber and assembling, that would be more interesting...although I don't think I'd put out another $30-$50 bucks just for that.

Phew (2, Funny)

ledow (319597) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265630)

Thanks guys. I always thought I was a geek before I read the comments here - all for 56 seconds of "extra" content for a 27-year-old film.

I'd now like to hand my geek-card in to someone who has a greater need for it.

Blade Runner (1)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265700)

Star Wars totally won over Blade Runner on derivative editions. To balance things, they should save Han Solo reputation and show that what really happened is that Rick Deckard shoot first.

Star Wars Revisited (4, Informative)

jackpot777 (1159971) | more than 4 years ago | (#33265822)

Search YouTube for Star Wars revisited. A fan by the name of adywan has created his own Special Editions of the original trilogy ...including The Imperial March into the Battle of Yavin IV, as well as there actually being thirty Rebel ships to count (and a bucketload more in the dogfighting department) are included. Episode IV is available in its entirity in 13 parts.

As a teaser, here is the beginning of the battle (YouTube video) [youtube.com] showing the DVD version and adywan's version. Notice the engines are now red instead of pink, the increase in ship numbers as mentioned above, and how the gas giant of Yavin is now viewable in cockpit scenes. The annoying discrepancy with the screen countdown (where '7 minutes' to the Rebel base was shown as 18 seconds, counting in 1/24ths of a second) has also been corrected.

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